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The 'Victoria Derbyshire' Programme

Victoria Derbyshire's new daytime show... (January 2015)

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MA
Marcus Founding member
Ratings for day two, slightly up on BBC Two with the programme doing well,

But the news channel has taking quite a hit

Wednesday 1 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.129 Sky News 0.55
Wednesday 8 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.71 Sky News 0.113

That may be a one off but its quite a switch

Isn't 0.71 higher than 0.129? Confused

Sorry corrected now

Wednesday 1 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.129 Sky News 0.055
Wednesday 8 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.071 Sky News 0.113
BA
bilky asko
Ratings for day two, slightly up on BBC Two with the programme doing well,

But the news channel has taking quite a hit

Wednesday 1 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.129 Sky News 0.55
Wednesday 8 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.71 Sky News 0.113

That may be a one off but its quite a switch

Isn't 0.71 higher than 0.129? Confused


I read it as 129,000 down to 71,000, and 55,000 up to 113,000.
RO
Ronant
Ratings for day two, slightly up on BBC Two with the programme doing well,

But the news channel has taking quite a hit

Wednesday 1 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.129 Sky News 0.55
Wednesday 8 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.71 Sky News 0.113

That may be a one off but its quite a switch

Isn't 0.71 higher than 0.129? Confused

Sorry corrected now

Wednesday 1 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.129 Sky News 0.055
Wednesday 8 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.071 Sky News 0.113

Wow, that's a really dramatic change. BBC News is very rarely behind Sky these days I believe. It seems it has made an immediate impact.

I think the programme would be ok maybe on a weekend morning, if they really do want to persist with it. A really bad idea to launch it 4 weeks before a general election though.
HE
headliner101
^^
Let's continue to monitor the ratings until at least the GE. If such trends persist, we can then send our case to Newswatch (not that the BBC isn't aware of them). However as I said before, I really think that despite all of this, the show is going nowhere on BBC's dials despite our feedback.

In fact, I sadly believe shows like BL, VD and OS are just the beginning of radical changes to N24. My prediction is that the trend will be towards merging more programmes between N24 with World where the latter's will feature more prominently.
CA
Cando
Ratings for day two, slightly up on BBC Two with the programme doing well,

But the news channel has taking quite a hit

Wednesday 1 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.129 Sky News 0.55
Wednesday 8 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.71 Sky News 0.113

That may be a one off but its quite a switch

Isn't 0.71 higher than 0.129? Confused

Sorry corrected now

Wednesday 1 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.129 Sky News 0.055
Wednesday 8 April between 0915 and 1100 BBC News average 0.071 Sky News 0.113


To be expected given the BBC2 simucast. People who usually watch BBC NC only have to go up 1 channel now.
DA
davidhorman
Do they give VD any kind of plug at the end of Breakfast? If so, do they talk of it as a BBC Two programme or an NC programme?
SO
southern_boy
I suppose that the NC (at weekends) will eventually end up like World is at weekends. News during the first 30 mins & then a pre-rec from the bottom half of the hour (e.g HardTalk).
EA
eanok
If they are dropped from the TV outlet, they will be dropped full stop. Producing long-form content 5 days a week is not something you can do cheaply or quickly.


Indeed. So far those 'exclusive reports' they've made must take days of effort. Like yesterday's programme, finding 5 patients with dementia, each case telling a different aspect of the subject, and making sure they can show up at the same time just don't sound like a programme broadcast daily could afford. Im starting to worry if they can maintain the same quality in the long run.
HB
HarryB
Do they give VD any kind of plug at the end of Breakfast? If so, do they talk of it as a BBC Two programme or an NC programme?

They show a small version of the main report at 8:25 on Breakfast before the handover to the NC and then Victoria speaks a bit before the 'coming up' on breakfast.
MO
Moz
Well, well, well. I've watched the first programme on iPlayer, and the BREAKING NEWS is that I didn't utterly hate it. In fact it very much has my respect. I was even close to liking it!

I found it well made, decently paced and a breath of fresh air. The film was interesting and covered an issue that, while it didn't interest me in the slightest, would be of interest to many. It challenges what we perceive as news - does all news have to be about politics or war? The section that *was* on politics was again refreshing and asked lots of questions that many people want asking - and, unbelievably, I found the studio audience was actually a decent cross-section of opinion and weren't at all annoying.

I have some massive reservations about the programme... How are they going to deal with breaking news? Will all the lead stories be fluffy human interest, or will we get some hard foreign affairs stuff? I didn't feel that they needed to return to the lead story later in the programme. It concentrated too much on this - there was opportunity to cover another story to get more of a balance.

But I'm willing to give it time and think BBC News is going in the right direction with this.

Shocked that I just wrote that!
TR
trivialmatters
DTV posted:
Some have said that this programming is down to cost cutting but how?


Well they haven't spent any money on graphics.
eanok and madmusician gave kudos
EA
eanok
Moz posted:
Will all the lead stories be fluffy human interest, or will we get some hard foreign affairs stuff?


I don't think they are fluffy at all. At least from what I've seen so far they are actually some very serious issues, yet the VD team try to tell those stories in a quasi-documentary way by featuring one or a few important cases in the 'film' and leaving the facts/expert opinions to the studio's guests. I do agree that the BBC is going in the right direction. Since most of us nowadays can get fast, breaking news online, news channels should provide more in-depth (but interesting at the same time) stories like VD do.

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