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JC
JosephConnor
Worzel posted:
johncotts90 posted:
SKY seems to lack something it had pre-2010. Everything seems so automated and controlled, just like the BBC. The move towards automation will only make this worse.


Don't understand how you come to that conclusion. Apart from the occasional camera wobblys, the BBC News channel has benefitted hugely from the use of Mosart/Furio with a winder range of studio shots available. Granted they could probably do with updating some of the newsroom TOTH trundle-cam pans but the channel still seems quite fresh 3 years on from the move.

Its night and day when you compare N6 at TVC to studio E at NBH.


It's not about the polish, automation takes the spontaneity away from live breaking news.
WO
Worzel
johncotts90 posted:
Worzel posted:
johncotts90 posted:
SKY seems to lack something it had pre-2010. Everything seems so automated and controlled, just like the BBC. The move towards automation will only make this worse.


Don't understand how you come to that conclusion. Apart from the occasional camera wobblys, the BBC News channel has benefitted hugely from the use of Mosart/Furio with a winder range of studio shots available. Granted they could probably do with updating some of the newsroom TOTH trundle-cam pans but the channel still seems quite fresh 3 years on from the move.

Its night and day when you compare N6 at TVC to studio E at NBH.


It's not about the polish, automation takes the spontaneity away from live breaking news.


How? Providing the presenter can bring you the news standing up or sitting down, what does the automation of the cameras have to do with it?

Most broadcasters are increasingly moving away from manually operated cameras to reduce costs.

Sky already have a lot of automation in their current Osterley and Westminster studios, granted the cameras aren't on tracks but they certainly have some automation in place, i'm sure Skygeek can confirm?
DO
dosxuk
johncotts90 posted:
Worzel posted:
johncotts90 posted:
SKY seems to lack something it had pre-2010. Everything seems so automated and controlled, just like the BBC. The move towards automation will only make this worse.


Don't understand how you come to that conclusion. Apart from the occasional camera wobblys, the BBC News channel has benefitted hugely from the use of Mosart/Furio with a winder range of studio shots available. Granted they could probably do with updating some of the newsroom TOTH trundle-cam pans but the channel still seems quite fresh 3 years on from the move.

Its night and day when you compare N6 at TVC to studio E at NBH.


It's not about the polish, automation takes the spontaneity away from live breaking news.


What are you on about?
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SK
Skygeek
Worzel posted:
johncotts90 posted:
Worzel posted:

Don't understand how you come to that conclusion. Apart from the occasional camera wobblys, the BBC News channel has benefitted hugely from the use of Mosart/Furio with a winder range of studio shots available. Granted they could probably do with updating some of the newsroom TOTH trundle-cam pans but the channel still seems quite fresh 3 years on from the move.

Its night and day when you compare N6 at TVC to studio E at NBH.


It's not about the polish, automation takes the spontaneity away from live breaking news.


How? Providing the presenter can bring you the news standing up or sitting down, what does the automation of the cameras have to do with it?

Most broadcasters are increasingly moving away from manually operated cameras to reduce costs.

Sky already have a lot of automation in their current Osterley and Westminster studios, granted the cameras aren't on tracks but they certainly have some automation in place, i'm sure Skygeek can confirm?

While there are camera technicians around to make necessary tweaks in Osterley, I have never seen anyone actively manning a camera in the studio in the same way they might in the field. They are robotically operated.
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JC
JosephConnor
Skygeek posted:
Worzel posted:
johncotts90 posted:

It's not about the polish, automation takes the spontaneity away from live breaking news.


How? Providing the presenter can bring you the news standing up or sitting down, what does the automation of the cameras have to do with it?

Most broadcasters are increasingly moving away from manually operated cameras to reduce costs.

Sky already have a lot of automation in their current Osterley and Westminster studios, granted the cameras aren't on tracks but they certainly have some automation in place, i'm sure Skygeek can confirm?

While there are camera technicians around to make necessary tweaks in Osterley, I have never seen anyone actively manning a camera in the studio in the same way they might in the field. They are robotically operated.


I'm referring to the automation in the control rooms, with rigid rundowns- with the exception of breaking news coverage SKY feels like every other news bulletin. I've been splitting my time between France and the UK and BFMTV has been exceptional-- just like SKY pre-2010.
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A former member
dosxuk posted:
johncotts90 posted:
Worzel posted:

Don't understand how you come to that conclusion. Apart from the occasional camera wobblys, the BBC News channel has benefitted hugely from the use of Mosart/Furio with a winder range of studio shots available. Granted they could probably do with updating some of the newsroom TOTH trundle-cam pans but the channel still seems quite fresh 3 years on from the move.

Its night and day when you compare N6 at TVC to studio E at NBH.


It's not about the polish, automation takes the spontaneity away from live breaking news.


What are you on about?

I get what he means. Compare to the original 5 News, with its camera operators who could literally follow the anchor anywhere within the studio - it just felt more raw and exciting. BBC News now *feels* automated and lacks immediacy.
LL
London Lite Founding member
5 News editor Cristina Nicolotti Squires is joining Sky News as Director of Content in January.

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/5-news-editor-cristina-nicolottie-squires-leaves-itn-after-22-years-to-become-sky-news-director-of-content/
LJ
Live at five with Jeremy
Maybe I'm ignorant but what does a news channel need a 'Director of Content' for? It's the news for goodness sake, she'll hardly have to mull over whether they bid for the GBBO or Strictly to fill their schedule!
JC
JosephConnor
Live at five with Jeremy posted:
Maybe I'm ignorant but what does a news channel need a 'Director of Content' for? It's the news for goodness sake, she'll hardly have to mull over whether they bid for the GBBO or Strictly to fill their schedule!


I would imagine for editorial decisions and programming the branded shows.
Her appointment does point towards a more populist format.
SK
Skygeek
Live at five with Jeremy posted:
Maybe I'm ignorant but what does a news channel need a 'Director of Content' for? It's the news for goodness sake, she'll hardly have to mull over whether they bid for the GBBO or Strictly to fill their schedule!

Then it shows how little you know about how a news channel is run on a daily basis.


It's not just a "wheel" format - be it Sunrise, Week in Review, Swipe, Pledge, Ian King, special events or documentaries - there's more to it than rolling news, and that's no bad thing at a time when outlets need to go beyond the "wheel" format, for which the consumption of social media is now a growing surrogate.
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CI
cityprod
Live at five with Jeremy posted:
Maybe I'm ignorant but what does a news channel need a 'Director of Content' for? It's the news for goodness sake, she'll hardly have to mull over whether they bid for the GBBO or Strictly to fill their schedule!


Yeah, this is the phrase that seems to be replacing Editor in various contexts. Director of Content (or Content Director, I've seen both), sounds way more interesting than Editor.
BP
Bob Paisley
London Lite posted:
5 News editor Cristina Nicolotti Squires is joining Sky News as Director of Content in January.

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/5-news-editor-cristina-nicolottie-squires-leaves-itn-after-22-years-to-become-sky-news-director-of-content/


It says in that report that she'll be in charge of all output. Well what will John Ryley be doing? Isn't that his job? Honestly, Sky News must be getting as bad as the BBC, what with all these different managers, doing the same job.

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